Today’s conversation is with Wendell Marsh, who teaches in the Department of Africana Studies at Rutgers University, Newark. His research explores the relationship between Islamic textual and cultural practice in West Africa and formations of intellectual traditions, social life, and the state. He is the author of Textual Life: Islam, Africa, and the Fate of the Humanities (2025). He will be taking a new position at Muhammad VI Polytechnic University in Morocco in fall of 2025. In this conversation, we discuss the importance of textual study in Black study, the place of religion and nation in Black Atlantic comparative work, and the place of religious diversity in the field of Black Studies.