Today’s conversation is with Kaila Story, who is the Audre Lorde Endowed Chair at the University of Louisville where teaches in the Departments of Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies and Pan-African Studies. She is the author of The Rainbow Ain’t Never Been Enuf: On The Myth of LGBTQ+ Solidarity (out in May 2025). She is also the co-creator, co-producer, and co-host of Louisville Public Media’s Strange Fruit: Musings on Politics, Pop Culture, and Black Gay Life, a popular award-winning podcast. In this conversation, we discuss how questions of gender and sexuality shift the field of Black Studies, the expansiveness of Black Studies insights, and the relationship between study, conversation, and the classroom.