Today’s discussion is with Casey Wong, who teaches in the Department of Educational Policy at Georgia State University. He is the author of a number of scholarly and public-facing pieces on education history, pedagogy, hip-hop, and public policy, as well as co-editor with H. Samy Alim and Jeff Chang of Freedom Moves: Hip Hop Knowledges, Pedagogies, and Futures. In this conversation, we discuss hip hop as a source for cultural studies, pedagogical inquiry, and insight into public policy matters from childhood to higher ed to the formation of political consciousness.